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([personal profile] kalibex Mar. 17th, 2003 06:38 pm)
All Art is, is less linear/more conceptual communication. Therefore, everyone is an artist - or should be.


Museums are just libraries for conceptual utterances that someone considered especially clever, or interesting. (And libraries are museums for linear utterances.)

From: [identity profile] antikythera.livejournal.com


Unfortunately, most people only know how to communicate in the ways in which they were taught in school, which means the most dry and technical form of linear written language. They are ill-equipped to express those ideas which can't be put into objective words.

"Brigadier, a straight line may be the shortest distance between two points, but it is by no means the most interesting."
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From: [identity profile] kalibex.livejournal.com


Even more importantly: 'The Medium is the Message'.

Quote by: Marshall McLuhan.

How we communicate dictates the very concepts we're able to hold.

From: [identity profile] antikythera.livejournal.com


Is that what that means? I've never heard the phrase in context... Canadian academic types tend to throw it around whenever it seems to suit their purpose, not unline scripture.

From: [identity profile] thedoctor-lj.livejournal.com


Heh, heh...figures.

Well, McLuhan was majorly into paying attention to how technology affects people and society...and how not every medium of communication (story-telling vs. written/printed books vs radio vs televison vs computers...etc) seems to put forth the exact same kind of information... is an observation he's especially well known for...

From: [identity profile] samantha2074.livejournal.com


I'm too tired to write coherently on this subject, but here are a couple of random thoughts. What is a sonata communicating? Or an abstract painting? Yes, some forms of art are expressing an idea, emotion, whatver, but I would argue that certain works are self-contained (not sure that that's the phrase I'm looking for).

I might also point out that if it weren't useful or relevant on some level to distinguish art from other categories of expression, then we would never have developed the concept of art.

Sometimes I am compelled to play Devil's Advocate.
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From: [identity profile] kalibex.livejournal.com


I would argue that certain works are self-contained (not sure that that's the phrase I'm looking for).

Just because we couldn't translate the communique's concept back into 'linear' doesn't mean there wasn't one there.

From: [identity profile] antikythera.livejournal.com


I think you answered your own question... art is separate from other categories of expression because other categories of expression just don't do the same things. Otherwise we'd think of art as just noise, gibbering and drooling of minds that can't use 'real language' to express themselves. (Actually, that sounds like what many people think of comic books, as opposed to 'real' books...)

What do you mean by self-contained, by the way? It sounds like you mean art that doesn't seem to be 'about' anything, that doesn't say anything to you, that just exists in its own little world. A cynical part of me says that an artist who fails to reach the audience, who fails to communicate the idea or the emotion, has failed in the work of art... but then, it's certainly possible for the audience to be closed-minded or unimaginative. I guess both sides have to cooperate-- the audience has to be receptive, and the artist has to have the skill to communicate.

From: [identity profile] drake57.livejournal.com


*All Art is, is less linear/more conceptual communication*
I like that statement
To me art is an expression of the soul or should be.
I think everyone can create art if they try

From: [identity profile] nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com


entirely off the topic, but aren't those mice common law married now?
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